Previous to this post, I've been able to tell about my early church situations and what I'd learned about Pastors leading the flock astray. With those posts in mind. Let's go a bit further into the details of a part of my testimony that manages to affect my life in ways too great to ignore. (((If you haven't read the previous posts. They are linked here: Post 1, Post 2)))
The first blog post on this multipost writing is on post three now. The first two talked about encountering lust and hypocrisy in the church. These posts aren't to judge or shame. They merely exist to share my encounters, my walk with Jesus, and in hopes to help someone want to study the Word more.
Anyhow, I'm grateful for all my earlier experiences for two reasons. 1. This shows me what not to do. 2. If I didn't experience these things, there are Christ-like attributes I'd never had learned. It can honestly be stated. These situations inadvertently helped me obtain the truth. I am ever so grateful my early experiences didn't make me so comfortable I'd have misconstrued truth for those things that were nothing more than easy to hear.
- "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15)
Study to show thyself approved to be a workman that needs not to be ashamed because they can rightly divide the Word of Truth. Interesting how profound this one scripture is.
How does one rightly divide the Word of Truth?
Early on in my walk. Life with three small children, a job, and college was a bit complicated. What time did I have to study? Life was simply too busy for me to think about the process of learning on my own. I left it up to the church. At no point did I ever consider that the addendums lined out to learn scriptures would be nothing more than a bunch of concepts man produced, but it was (and in many ways) still is. It is these previously held concepts (made by man) that now plague the church in ways detrimental to one's salvation.
But don't tell them in the church that. You will be stoned and thrown into hell. ((Well, maybe not that exactly. However, you will lose friends and be labeled "deceived" without fair jury))
Quite frankly, I can hear the noise of every believer chiming in with the "not my teacher" rebuttal. I've heard this many times along the way. The "men of God who taught me were God-fearing men who really loved the Lord. No way, would they, could they, or did they teach me wrong. They taught absolutely nothing more or less than sound doctrine. They were good men."
Umm, no offense. Jesus said no man is good. "Only the Father in heaven". With this how would you know if someone who taught you was teaching lies unless you studied independently of that person? If you never questioned those things that people have taught you. How would you ever know?
I wouldn't have ever thought in a million years the church I was baptized in was teaching the commandments of men. These were God-fearing believers who loved to worship, and they had no problem with speaking about those things that pleased or displeased God. They read from the scriptures and taught about love and benevolence.
For an individual to say they love Jesus - but never read the Word because of the many excuses people find - is equivalent to saying. I don't have the time to spend with Jesus. I don't care to know more about Him. Such as I did unknowingly. I didn't have the time or the know-how to do more than what was outlined in those study books given to me. I thought reading the lesson plans was enough and all that was required of me to keep me on the right path with God and on the forward track of knowing God's Word. I couldn't have been more wrong.
Remember, meeting Christ allowed me to know HIS Word was perfect. I thought the brick-and-mortar church would enable me to see that perfection.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil
It didn't even dawn on me until a few years ago what actually happened during those days. That is in my early church days, my discernment was not exercised. I was nothing more than a baby in Christ.
2 Peter 2:2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
I followed the books and kept up with my lessons. When I wasn't in the church, following the booklets they handed out for lesson plans, I was reading the Word independently. Although, it wasn't as much as it should be, I did read. The more I read and learned, the more questions formulated in my mind. Oddly, there never seemed to be an adequate time to verbalize this in the church setting. And they weren't found in the lesson plan either. My questions pretty much didn't exist around the pre-fabricated lesson plan they had me on.
From my experience, I know that many people follow the way of the churches and since I've been in many churches, watched many online, and so forth, I know they're still following the same old ways as they were when I was in them.
Actually, let me correct that. Many churches are in such a state of apostasy that they've lost all their senses and have knowingly let satan in the door to play with all the members. However, for the sake of this post and the points to be made within, let's omit some of these topics. Or at least not get into details (even though they're extremely important); they will do no justice for the point of this writing.
Anyhow, when someone is newly saved. They are on milk. They are babes in Christ. It took me over 15 years to get off of the boob and to be able to handle sound doctrine. Strong meat is sound doctrine, and enables a believer to rightly divide the Word. You don't have that when you are newly adopted by Christ. You have to attain that with a heck of a lot of studies, praying, fasting, and learning through real-world experiences. It is a fact. People who do not believe and become newly converted believers always look to someone for guidance. The act of being "saved" and a newly converted member of the body of Christ makes for the perfect age to instruct. ((you pretty much can direct how a believer will walk out their walk with Christ in the first year))
Whenever you hear someone telling people how to be saved, you hear them say, "If you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and savior, find you a church." It is common practice among the body of believers to instruct a newfound believer on finding a place to fellowship and get the Word. And because this is important. There are two ways I've witnessed people being called to repentance. One is in the brick-and-mortar church. The second is online.
Let's talk about online calls to give your life to Jesus.
Why isn't the first thing people say to those who just gave their life to Christ, "the Holy Spirit will come and baptize you in the Spirit?" Then teach them at least the very basics of such. Everyone in the church should know the importance of getting the Word of God. However, the church's knowledge of such is basic and generalized. Also, isn't the most important aspect of being reborn again being baptized with the Holy Spirit? Why do most (not all) not elaborate on finding a believer to baptize you in water and to look forward to being baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire thereafter?"
Is it more important to find a brick-and-mortar church than it is to be baptized by the Holy Spirit? Is a water baptism more important? How much time do you actually have with a person online once they've answered the alter call? You just opened a whole can of worms in a mans house and left him hanging with find a church? Will a person not be saved if they didn't get dipped in water? No, in fact, the thief on the cross didn't get baptized. He merely truly repented. But the point here is. I've asked a lot of relevant questions for a new believer, and my questions here can't be answered in seconds. Matter of fact, we are online now. Let's see how long this writing takes for you to read. However long it is. That is how long a believer in Christ should spend at the bare minimum with someone they've just baptized with water. The writing shall answer the other questions to be clear that no point is left unanswered.
"It is written in:
- Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
and- Acts 1:5 - For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence."
John was baptizing in the pool of water, but the Holy Ghost was to come after "not many days hence," which tells us these are two separate events. This means that the outward manifestation of being baptized in a pool of water by men is a beautiful expression to show one's faith. However, if you're in the same position the thief on the cross was, you aren't going to be denied simply because you couldn't get dipped in the pool of water. Otherwise, the thief on the cross never would've been told, "On this day, you will be with me in paradise." Check it out, though. If a person does not get baptized by the Holy Spirit, there is no way they can enter into the kingdom of heaven. You need reborn again by Holy Spirit and fire in order to make it into the kingdom of heaven. That is an absolute fact.
The altar calls in a building of worship - such as mine, which is when I accepted Jesus as My Lord and Savior (having professed Jesus came in the flesh and was given a date to be baptized) - is where I had my first encounter with the "Holy Spirit." I knew in two weeks, I would be baptized by water. Although there were two weeks until that awesome day. I was required the following weekend to attend what they called the "New Beginners classes". And for the life of me, I can't seem to even remember the first subject matter in that class. I believe it had to do with the disciples going somewhere with the Messiah, what their actions were that brought them there, and I don't know. I may be guessing and totally off the mark. All I do know is they never brought up the Holy Spirit baptizing me. I met Jesus the night I was baptized. I didn't even get to tell anyone in that church because I didn't feel comfortable talking about my spiritual encounter. Something is seriously wrong with that picture. ((Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming the church. However, the church did play its part))
The Holy Spirit baptism just mentioned may have changed my thought process and how I handled situations. Or how about teaching me the Holy Spirit moves in? What about the importance of the Word of God? Why was none of that brought up? Heck, why did they shove me into a class instead of having a meeting with me? Life changes drastically when you give your life to Jesus. Why didn't they mention that? Or how about Jesus being the WORD of GOD? How come they didn't teach me that immediately either? How come they didn't teach me that the World hated Jesus so there would be many trials to endure, and they would hate me too? Why was the first topic so irrelevant that I can't even recall it? Shouldn't it have impacted me so much so that my journey was built on a strong foundation?
How come they didn't tell me those things that are profitable for salvation? Like, why didn't they say to me? Carmen, everything you do from this day forward should be because the Holy Spirit will direct you in your path. You will be baptized in the name of Jesus, and when you do, things will not be the same. The Holy Spirit will come after and baptize you in the Spirit. The world will hate you. Trials and tribulations will come your way to try your faith. You will be directed by the Holy Spirit, and you should listen to HIM in all things, and you should study to show thyself approved.
That isn't hard to say to someone who just gave their life to Christ. Is it?
I tell ya. If they had simply told me, at the very least, to study to show myself approved so I may rightly divide the Word - by learning line upon line and precept upon precept - my walk would've looked different than it does today.
I don't have my beginners' book any longer, and I can't tell you exactly what went what way. So to be fair, I did a google search to find a beginners class taught in the baptist church - since that's where my journey began - and went with the first one that came up. (that .pdf file is here).
This .pdf file allows us to peer into a church's class session for new beginners, and I must say, it does seem like a great way to teach. It's just about in line with exactly what I picture it should be like. However...
Let's just look at what that lesson looks like. I'm going to copy every detail from lesson 1 and make some points to give an idea of what I'm getting at after:
I tell you the truth. Unless one is born again, he cannot be in God's kingdom. -John 3:3
A person's body is born from his human parents. But a person's spiritual life is
born from the spirit. -John 3:6
THE PROBLEM OF SIN (and there is an illustration drawn out to expound on sin)
For all have sinned and come short of God's glory. -Romans 3:23
For the wages of sin is death. -Romans 6:23
(and another illustration is drawn out). As you see here:
After this illustration the lesson continues:
You cannot brag that you have been
saved by the works you have done.
-Galatians 2:9
Then another illustration on overcoming sin. Followed up with this verse:
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have all turned to our own way, and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. -Isaiah 53:6
Another illustration with the title A BRIDGE IS MADE
But Christ died for us while we were still sinners. In this way, God shows His love for us.-Romans 5:8
ME, GOD, SIN
RECEIVING JESUS
But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God.-John 1:12
How do you receive Jesus?
• Repent of your sins (Acts 3:19)
• Place your faith in Christ (John 3:16)
• Live for Jesus (Romans 10:9)
You might say this prayer
Dear God, I know that I have sinned
and need forgiveness. I believe that
Jesus died for my sin. Forgive my sin
and put me right with you. I will follow
Jesus as my Lord and obey him in all
that I do. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
YOU ARE CERTAIN YOU HAVE
ETERNAL LIFE
And this is the testimony: God has
given us eternal life, and this life is
in his Son. He who has the Son has
life; he who does not have the Son
of God does not have life. I write
these things to you who believe in
the name of the Son of God so that
you may know that you have eternal
life.-1 John 5:11-13
YOU ARE A DIFFERENT PERSON
So if anyone is in Christ, there is a
new creation: everything old has
passed away; see, everything has
become new! 2 Corinthians 5:17
LESSON OVER!!
Now, let's talk about this lesson.
All scripture is profitable for instruction in righteousness.
2 Corinthians 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
There is a reason you train a child up in the way that they should go.
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go [teaching him to seek God’s wisdom and will for his abilities and talents], Even when he is old he will not depart from it.
Being reborn again signifies a major life change. To top it off, many things happen in the life of a believer - that are nothing like what we have previously come to know from the ways of the world.
As for me, I didn't necessarily understand repentance. I never looked at myself as a bad person. I helped people, took good care of my kids, contributed to my community, and lived a life free of burdening someone else. But I didn't understand my spiritual encounters. And I don't think I understood why a person is a sinner, either. The point here is certain things are not obvious to everyone.
Knowing why you are a sinner is imperative. Heck, Trump said he doesn't have anything he needs to repent for. Surely a lot of people haven't lied, stolen, or cheated. This would make them wonder. Why am I a sinner? I haven't done those things.
Then you have people like Trump who says he loves Jesus, but he has no reason to repent. 'Outwardly' he looks to be a saved man (by anyone looking at the surface of things).
According to the scriptures is it even possible that Trump is saved?
Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized, everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Looking at Trump's public omission (of not being baptized) and current lifestyle compared to the scripture, Trump is not saved. But you hear people every day -who believe in Christ - say that Trump is a great man of God.
According to what the scriptures say.
Trump is under the control of the Prince of the Power of the air.
He says he has no need to repent!! This is a lie.
Otherwise, the scriptures would not say, "repent, every one of you, and be baptized." The scriptures don't say. Only those who never lied or cheated need to repent. It says, "ALL OF YOU." This means Trump needs to repent or the Holy Spirit won't come and dwell in him. This is a clear indicator he is under the control of the god of this world. In the scriptures, the Lord God says he is called "the prince of the power of the air".
Knowing why the world is full of sin is imperative. If people knew this. There wouldn't be anyone to instruct Trump that it is okay to feel like he doesn't have to repent. However, knowing this is not more important than understanding the process of God Almighty baptizing you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
Without the Holy Spirit baptism, a person can't even see spiritually. Unfortunately, Trump will never receive the Holy Spirit baptism if he doesn't repent and get the Holy Spirit and fire baptism.
Using this situation one can surmise - with only a generalized knowledge base of baptism - Trump could go through the baptism and everyone believes he has been baptized in the Holy Spirit. The sad fact is, without repentance there can be no remission of sin. Sadly, the leaders around him (within the church) obviously aren't telling him these things.
Isaiah 9:16 For those who guide this people mislead them, and those they mislead are swallowed up.
They are blinded and unable to come to the knowledge of the truth. So, although this lesson appears to be exactly what a new believer needs, there are topics that need to be expounded on immediately for a new beginner. Using a strong foundation - from the beginning - is imperative. Unfortunately, this lesson would seem to come from a human perspective based on man's precepts.
If you train a child up to think a specific way. They will look at things from that perspective, which is what is happening in the church. The lesson outlined reminds me of my early church days, and I'd felt they were what I needed to know, but they're merely precepts of man.
In this lesson, everything is generalized. This can really obscure the meaning of so many biblical topics. And if we are children, literal babies in Christ, we need spiritual milk to build a firm foundation on. For instance, how do we know the teacher in that lesson elaborates on the Holy Ghost baptism? Can we merely assume they are based on the pointed-out verses in John, Romans, and Isaiah about the "new creation?"
Look, the scriptures say:
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.
Although John 3:6 mentions being born of the spirit, and it is outlined within the lesson, it isn't presented in full. On a personal level, I believe these scriptures would be more of a suitable choice to build upon for babies in Christ. This way, the newly converted believer has more of a foundation for multiple topics. These two verses say. We need to be born again and by the incorruptible, which is the WORD OF GOD. Nowhere in that lesson do we see this reference. To assume that is what is being taught is foolishness. If it were. Then it would have been listed in the referenced verses. These two verses are as paramount to a believer as much as an unbeliever.
Why? Because you are allowing a person to know the WORD of God is who Jesus is. You are allowing them to understand. By the Word of God, a person is born again. Instead, the lesson we just reviewed is leading people to believe all one has to do is believe in Jesus, and that's it, you are a new creation who has eternal life no matter what. On the surface, that explanation could fly, but a seasoned saint must consider it. It is the glory of Elohim to conceal a matter and the glory of Kings to search it out.
The lesson making such a generalized reference to who Jesus is could also be detrimental. A question I've posed before is. Who is Jesus?
Churchgoers reply:
"the son of the One true living God." This is true. However, there is more to Jesus.
Using this one scripture to explain who He is. That simply is not enough. After all, there are more than 30 scriptures depicting who Jesus is, and let me tell you, I've been around a lot of believers who all believe something different about Jesus. Although they read the same scriptures.
This only happens because people are continually putting their spin on things. They come up with theories as to why this is instead of using the scriptures to deny or validate what is stated. It's the very reason for all these different denominations in the church. God Almighty gave us one law and one son who overcame the law. Do you believe that? Well, the devils also believe. (James 2:19) I could tell you my version of who Jesus is, and someone else will come in and tell me Jesus is someone different than what the scriptures say. If a believer in Christ believes Christ saved them for one thing, but it was for something more than what the surface of these scriptures leads us to believe (and they don't know that) shall they know Him when He reveals Himself to them?
Go tell a believer some of the misconceptions modern-day churches are enveloped in. Read scripture and use it in a way that goes against popular doctrinal teachings. The response of those who grew up believing a certain way is unbelievable. Even if you read it to them (because they refuse to read it). They will deny it says that. Or address it says that and put their own spin on why it says that. Many times they will accuse you of speaking heresy and then turn around and give you scripture that verifies exactly what you've just said. They see themselves as proving you are wrong. When in fact, they're proving you right. These people are those kinds of people who pray, incorporate Jesus into their daily lives, and I've met those who weep and mourn because they want to be in HIS presence so bad(they're not your average person, that's for sure), and they are the worse ones to talk to.
Their profession and love for Christ are all they speak of. Yet, take them something that goes against the traditional way they were taught or even goes against popular belief, and the story changes. This is too much for them. Even if it is in the scriptures. This is the same thing the Pharisees did.
Two particular situations hit me with a pain eternally that I can't physically describe. I've felt pretty discouraged because of them. You see, what they don't know is. If you deny what is written in the WORD of GOD. You are denying God Almighty. You could have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior and then turned around and unknowingly denied HIM. According to the lesson we just reviewed, you can rest assured, you are saved ((and never will anyone lose their salvation)).
This once-saved, always-saved doctrine simply isn't true. But people believe it. Although, there is evidence proving that your name can be blotted out of the book of life (Revelation 3:5).
The world teaches us that we can be of whatever denomination we want and teach however we want. And God will be okay with this because we chose to accept Jesus at one point in our lives, and that is all you needed to do. But this is not true either! That is a manmade concept. People who believe this are in desperate trouble because they're on the broad highway to hell. The scriptures prove this. I've heard from one of these people who have labeled me a heretic deceived by an occult leading man (hand on face), "God will accept everyone into heaven who professes Jesus with their mouth."
That is not true either. And these aren't my words.
Let me prove it using the Word of God. And in the process, give a few real-world situations.
Matthew 7:20 So then, by their fruit you will recognize them. 21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
Notice scriptures say, "did we not prophesy in YOUR NAME, and in YOUR NAME drive out demons, and perform many miracles?" These are people who confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. These aren't non-believers.
Unfortunately, early on in my walk, I didn't fully understand salvation. I've never felt worthy of being saved. I've simply found it easier to believe in what the Word says versus what someone says about the Word. ((There is comfort in knowing what the Word says and believing it)). However, knowing what the Word says is like a double-edged sword.
When someone tells me, "if you believe in Jesus, you will be saved," (Romans 10:9). It is far too generalized, which is why I can easily show the scriptures in Matthew (7:21-22) and say. "There are many who believed in Jesus that will be told depart from me, you worker of iniquity." Do you see what I mean?
((And look, let me point something out. It is true that all who believe in Jesus will be saved. That is exactly what the Word says. However,one must believe in Jesus (((the real ONE)))
Anyhow, Matthew 7:21-22 stumps those people who believe that everyone who says Jesus will be saved. Using this rebuttable to help others attain the truth of doctrine literally stumps them.
Although, I've heard. "This is only for the Pharisees." There are a lot of problems that come with this statement, and by analyzing it closely (with scripture), we can easily identify what generalized statements or teachings do to believers understanding.
If the theory 'everyone is saved who believes and has professed Jesus as their Lord and Saviour' needed no further understanding, then everyone would be saved that believes in Jesus. Right?
Everyone who professed Jesus as their Lord and Saviour would be saved.
However, that is not what this scripture says. Any critical thinker will look at that statement and say there are contradictions found within the Word.
How do you expect to explain that verse away? These people who will be told to depart from HIM are people who are in the church right now. Talking about, "Jesus loves you. He will never impute sin to you." So what is the reason why it says in other scriptures, "MANY will say to me Lord, Lord... and I will profess I never knew you, you worker of lawlessness?"
Of course, I've asked this question to those believers who don't naturally know. How can you explain this away when the Word clearly tells us, "Not everyone who says Lord, Lord, and does things in HIS name will be saved?" As previously mentioned. The response was, "these are the Pharisees," and made some reference to those in the Catholic church or something.
What's sad about this situation is. They were right. It is the Pharisees. Unfortunately, the problem lies within the description of who the Pharisees are.
The Pharisees aren't exactly what most people think. In fact, it may shock a lot of people to find out what the Pharisees of today would look like, which is something we are going to get to the bottom of herein.
Isaiah 28:13 says
- “But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.”
Jesus came and taught HIS disciples the WORD, which is who HE is. The disciples learned precept upon precept, line upon line, with a little knowledge given here and a little given there from the Messiah.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
This means HE taught them the Word. Those men HE taught were later filled with the HOLY SPIRIT, and they went around teaching the Word of righteousness so as to help others attain eternal life. As the scriptures tell us, we are born again by the incorruptible Word of God. So these disciples went out to tell everyone what they witnessed, and by speaking the Word of God, they were able to help others attain salvation. Even still, not all believed when HE walked the earth. Have you ever considered why people wouldn't have believed? I have.
In the book of John is a situation similar to those I've encountered.
John 12:42 Nevertheless, many of the leaders believed in Him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue. 43 For they loved praise from men more than praise from God
Here we have it. The people in the church believed, but they couldn't confess HIM because other people in the church may have ended up kicking them out. They wanted the praise of man more than they loved God. I know from experience. People are doing the very same thing they did in the days Jesus' walked the earth. I've witnessed a boatload of believers go against Jesus unknowingly. And I aim to prove it using a few of the situations I've encountered in hopes of helping someone not make the same mistakes those Pharisees did.
First off, every one of us should know. Just because someone is in church or professes Jesus as their Lord and Savior does not necessarily mean they're saved. It is written
(((you shall know them by their fruits)))
It's the fruit of a person's doing and his life that speaks to that person's character. A pastor could look good and loving, of a good heart, and be a wretch of a man inside, and we are clueless about this simply because we may encounter them five-10 hours a week or whatever. Blindly believing someone is better than we think is a common error among people daily. Another thing to keep in mind is there must be millions of (what people would consider) 'good men' in hell. Heck, even Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone." (Luke 18:19) So people shouldn't be judging any man based on the little time they spent with them learning the Word of God. In fact, when Jesus walked the earth and taught people, nowhere did we hear Him say, "Find you a good synagogue." Instead, he was in the synagogues fighting with these people.
To dismiss this would be ignorant.
- John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Do teachers tell us we need no one to teach us? Do they say that Jesus will teach us all things? Or do they say, Come to church, and I will teach you what the doctrine says? I know from experience, they all say. "Find a good church. Learn among them. Find a good guide to help you along the way." So, right out of the gate, the truth isn't being shared the way it should be. ((All one must do is await the baptism of the Holy Spirit and HE will teach all things.))
- John 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
The way people are taught affects how they view God. It's like a child. You train them up by evil abusers, and they grow up to be victimizers too (there are exceptions, of course). The powers that be know this. It is why they target children.
When you are reborn again, it's like being a child all over again, no matter the age you are. Never mind what you've learned in the past. You are now a new creation in Christ. A born-again baby who needs to learn life all over again. Although the lesson does mention being born again. It, too, was just generalized. There was no real explanation of what that may mean.
These little things are bigger than one knows. They can be extremely misleading. Telling someone to come to church after they've been redeemed as if it's the most important thing is misleading. The most important thing is to expect the Holy Spirit baptism and get into the Word of God, which is also among the #1 most important thing, is knowing Jesus is the Word of God - and by knowing this one point alone their foundation is stronger - and is on the right path to being built up into the incorruptible.
It is absolutely fascinating to me what is concealed within the Words of this verse.
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According to the online concordance, God in this verse is Hebrew Word 430, and means. 1) plural in number. a. rulers, judges, either as divine representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power האלהים Exodus 21:6 (Onk ᵑ6, but τὸ κριτήριον τοῦ Θεοῦ ᵐ5) Exodus 22:7; Exodus 22:8; אלהים Exodus 22:8; Exodus 22:27 (ᵑ7 Ra AE Ew RVm; but gods, ᵐ5 Josephus Philo AV; God, Di RV; all Covt. code of E) compare 1 Samuel 2:25 see Dr.; Judges 5:8 (Ew, but gods ᵐ5; God ᵑ6 BarHebr.; יהוה ᵑ9 Be) Psalm 82:1; Psalm 82:6 (De Ew Pe; but angels Bl Hup) Psalm 138:1 (ᵑ6 ᵑ7 Rab Ki De; but angels ᵐ5 Calv; God, Ew; gods, Hup Pe Che).
We can see it is referencing a plural Word (not singular), and from what we have documented so far, means angels. I didn't list the entire online reference to the meaning -which you can find here - because I noticed differences that must be from recent changes to the eSword databases. ((I must point something out. They're changing the concordance right before our very eyes. ))
I have a concordance, and as you can see from the photo of it, the meaning of Hebrew Word 430 says, plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense, but specifically used in the plural, especially with the article of the Supreme God; occasionally applied by the way of difference to magistrates, and sometimes as a superlative.
The meaning goes on to say plural in number and refers to 1. rulers, judges, either as divine, representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power 2. divine ones, superhuman beings, including God and angels.
These definitions don't appear to be exactly the same as one another. Why? Wouldn't it seem as if they're trying to hide the truth now? (I mean, look around censorship is already off the charts). Why try to conceal the meaning even further? Could wanting to obscure the truth be the reason? After all, the Antichrist will fool all of humanity into worshipping him (in the end. & those who won't, well, let's just say, "OFF WITH THEIR HEAD").
Anyhow...
Luckily, I have the book on the words. So the online meaning can change all it wants. The book is here. It remains the same. And further validates they're trying to hide the truth. I'm trying to commit it all to memory before I no longer have it. Before you know it. The Word will no longer be around, which is why now more than ever, a person should be learning the Word of God and know it thoroughly, or it would be more than possible to be deceived.
Amos 8:12 “And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.”
Anyhow, Elohim being plural is extremely important. In at least 13 scriptures, the Lord God Almighty tells us that HE is singular, not triune or plural; Singular in nature. The evidence as to why HE told us this is overwhelmingly fascinating and extremely important. However, not all believers think this way.
Talking with other believers who say, "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is who God is in Genesis 1" is like talking to an unbeliever or someone wise in their own conceit. It is anything but a moment of fellowshipping in spirit and in truth, which is weird actually.
They truly do not like to hear that God in Genesis one is not Jesus, Holy Spirit, and Father. They want to believe Genesis 1:26 is talking about Father, Son, Holy Spirit and that is why it is written, "God said let US." They believe, 'US' is being used because HE is a triune God.
This is the product of not teaching a new believer the importance of the Word. They will fight tooth and nail with the personal idea that it is Father, Son, Holy Spirit and can't make it through a study that would erase all the misconceptions.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they read this, and made it to this part, then quit reading. Or maybe they quit a few paragraphs back? Challenging what they have been taught isn't welcomed.
Zephaniah 2:1 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired;
As believers, we should come together and be of one accord. If these people who profess to know Jesus were totally enveloped in the Word, when the Word was presented, they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Oddly, one could easily say, that sounds similar to what happened in the days Jesus walked the earth. For them, I believe, the idea of being wrong on that is either too heavy for them or they care more about what men think than what the Lord God says.
In fact, one person refuses to hear anything related to the Word of God from a specific teacher simply because a few people said something bad about him, and this person highly esteems the one person who is blind and leading them on the wrong path. They say it is because "he rubs them the wrong way". When I respond by saying, "judging spiritual matters with a carnal mind". I'm being told. "You are misusing the scriptures."
Romans 8:6-10 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Sadly, someone rubbing us the wrong way is so easy to do. Especially for anyone teaching the Word. Heck, a trait of the Prophets of old was easy to see. Those guys were peculiar. It's pretty easy to dislike people who are extremely different from you. Never mind you showing evidence of them being wrong. Never mind God Almighty says for us to come together and be of one accord. Never mind me showing them the scriptures on it and saying, "let's study this together". That way we could let the scriptures solve the issue.
I like sharing these awesome revelations with others, but some people in the church want to say that God is plural in nature and that is why HE said, "Let us make man in our image," which is not true. So because I know this I have to say something. When I do lay everything out before them. They ignore it! Then tell me I should study. Not once considering the scriptures presented!
What do the scriptures say?
When asking this question to those who differ on their take. I have been given scriptures that validate what I'm saying (they believe it proves I'm wrong).
The problem here exists in the fact they have only a surface-level understanding of those scriptures. ((And I am not being proud, rude, or forceful either. I'm being who I am required and telling the truth.)) When I try to expound on it and bring the scriptures, the Holy Spirit told me, "they don't even bother to read it."
That I don't understand either. I try to read, and listen, and understand, even when I know that I've already learned something just to understand my brethren when they present something to me. Why would me sharing those scriptures and meanings cause such actions? Is that a Christ-like attribute?
When I tell them that Father, Son, Holy Spirit in Genesis 1 makes no sense to me and show them what the scriptures say about it, they flip out on me. Instantly cut me off, or something similar. I've been called so many names in the last few years over this very thing. It is unreal.
"Deceived, stuck in heresy, operating under darkness, idolizing some man..."
I've heard so many bizarre reasons as to why God Almighty would say HE is singular but reference HIMSELF as being plural.
Well, unfortunately, they never are clearly able to identify the full reason in scriptures (and it's because they can't, it doesn't exist). I'm required to say that. I know better, and if I don't say anything when I know better, that is sin.
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Sadly, what they don't realize is the one who is wrong in this situation is the one who will stand to be blamed in the end -unless repentance is made for the error.
Heresy is a crime.
2 Peter 2:1-22 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction
This is even more the reason why I choose to search the scriptures, and share those things that I've come to understand, on my own.
I've said many times I'm not a teacher.
A thing about me. If I'm wrong I will see my error, repent, and turn away through lots of study, prayer, and Holy Spirit direction. This has happened. I've been wrong in the past. This helped me to understand that I needed to learn before I speak. This led me to study. This led me to learn. It took thousands of hours. I've listened to every form of Jesus there is out here.
Quite frankly, what I've always done when reproved, is study the heck out of it - which is what I've done over the years. Sadly, if I tell someone who is trying to convince me otherwise that I've studied it. I get persecuted for that too. I've been told I'm bringing another doctrine, another Jesus, and I'm the one who is wrong.
2 John 1:10 - If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
But it is they who believe in a Jesus that is made up of man's precepts and not of sound doctrine!
This will be proven within this writing.
As previously stated, I've mentioned Genesis 1 is not the Father, Son, Holy Spirit to a believer who has been taught that it is. First, let me point out the obvious, you can't be OF the Supreme God, and be the Supreme God at the same time. The definition of Elohim consists of Angels, magistrates, and judges OF the Supreme God.
You expect me to believe you can be OF the Supreme God and still be the Supreme God?
These are my words. Ya don't just believe anyone telling you something. it is written in Romans 3:4 "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
So, don't believe me. Let us look at the WORD:
The Supreme God consists of many Elohim who is OF Him, but they are not HIM. Although, there is Lucifer, who said he would be like the Most High. There is only one true living God. And he is not notated within the contexts of scripture as Elohim.
The photo is of Strongs Concordance:
He is referenced in the concordance as EL, ale; short, from 352; Strength; as adj. mighty: especially the Almighty (but used also of any diety); - God (used 213x), god (16x), power (4x), mighty (5x) goodly (1x), great (1x, idols (1x), Immanuel + 6005 - (2x), might (1x), strong (1x), Strong (1x). compare names in "el" the Hebrew Word 410. The Almighty.
Notice there are numbers after the words to show how many times this Word "God" is found within the scriptures? A person who knows the Word has managed to study to show themselves approved by looking into all those other references. They can rightly divide it by fitting them together like a glove fits hands. Like a spider web, the Word fits perfectly woven together.
The basic understanding says God is God and there is only one God.
Unfortunately for many, there is more than one meaning for the Word God found within the scriptures.
There is God H410 and there is God H430. Does this matter?
YES! Yes it does!
Is it not written to "have no other gods before HIM?"
My friends, first I must tell you, to know anything about the scriptures one must know.
It is the glory of God (h430 Elohym, angels, magistrates, and judges) to conceal a matter and the glory of kings to search it out (Proverbs 25:2).
Could something be concealed in the meaning of the Words "God?" Could "God" have hidden something so as to obscure meanings? After all, the Word says God concealed, right? So He must have, right?
Why would God do that?
We are going to get to the bottom of this!
Hosea 4:6 says my people perish for a lack of knowledge.
I don't want to perish because I don't know something. I'm the one to study to show myself approved so I can rightly divide the Word. That way I'm not just like the Pharisees.
The Word showing up to save them went unnoticed because they thought they knew the Word but didn't know Him at all. Otherwise, they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of Glory.
Could those who don't know how to rightly divide the word be the people who are going to be told, "depart from me?" I asked this question many years ago. Who are those people who will be told this? I don't want to be among them! Nor do I want that for anyone I know either.
I won't stop until we have found the answer and it is documented and clear!
This is a little off-topic. But still very relevant. I began to bring it up earlier. Whenever I've talked with brethren on the Genesis 1 matter I've experienced these encounters that paint a clear picture of what is stated in Proverbs 26
verse 4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be like him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes
These verses sound contradictory. However, they aren't. In fact, they truly give us a picture of what it would be like to answer a man who is not saved. One simply ends up arguing with an unsaved person because they don't believe. Whereas the 5th verse in Proverbs 26 references a believer, and notice it is stated? "lest he be wise in his own conceit."
Oh, the Pharisees were wise in their own conceit! You couldn't teach them anything. They knew that they knew the Word. However, when the Word stood before them, they knew Him not!
OH! The irony of that alone!
These people knew the scriptures, but they obviously lacked a great deal of understanding, which led them to crucify the Lord of Glory. How was satan so slick and cunning that he managed to blind the eyes of those who didn't believe Jesus was God in the flesh when HE walked the earth? All the while, others heard and believed and followed HIM to understand more. Why did some follow and others chose not to?
My experiences in these conversations with believers were about the Word. But it seemed to turn into strife. And I mentioned. Shouldn't believers be able to come together and really enjoy the scriptures with one another? It is written, the body of Christ is to be of one accord
Phillipians 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
How can the body of Christ be of one accord when all these different denominations exist? If I say the scriptures do not say what you believe it says, and read what the scriptures say right alongside the concordance, and you say I'm adding to the Word when I read it verbatim, and you read one verse, and give me three sentences as to why it was that. What are you doing then?
What is your response?
Want to know mine? Good, I'm going to explain.
I take that (whatever the topic is) and study it. I ponder it, sometimes I ponder too long on it. However, you will never catch me refuting something without fully studying it. My writing here wouldn't exist if it weren't for wanting to truly understand. You will not catch me jumping immediately to my defense - unless it is something I have studied in depth and I know that I know this truth *as the scriptures prove it* and someone is attacking me for my knowledge in it. Believe it or not, other people don't see it the same. They attack me for understanding and never give me a chance to show them anything in the scriptures before saying I'm deceived.
Of course, this isn't the same for everyone. However, I've been in situations where we don't believe the same thing. (Where I assume presenting the scriptures will sum up the misconception.)((After all, it is the WORD OF GOD that should light the believer's path. Not man's thoughts, ideas, or desires. This is what keeps people of one accord)).
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105
Bringing up the differences could very well - on the surface - look as if this would be trying to argue the scriptures. Yet it isn't. In fact, not knowing differences can really cause a lot of confusion. By studying things together two people have come together and spent time lovingly, growing in faith, and learning. These are the "come together" moments the disciples had. This is how people learn. This is also how they fellowship.
If one person believes they know scriptures that allow them to provide evidence that God in Genesis 1 isn't the same as God in Genesis 2 - Nor is it the same "God" of our salvation either - why would the other believer not be like? Cool. Show me that! Let's dig in and see what it all means (together)!
For instance, using the Word 'God' we see multiple meanings for God. H410, H430, 2316, and so forth. Each number produces a meaning. However, one says they are OF another and the other says He basically is the Father to all things. ((This puts me in mind of a hierarchy.)) So I vocalize that. The respondent shouldn't automatically cut you off, not let you provide the evidence in a cool manner, or begin accusing you of being deceived either. NO!!
Two calm, believers in Jesus, who are truly walking after the Spirit would know. One is right. One is wrong. By calmly covering every aspect - in love - the truth will come out, and showing how one could be deceived is easy because the scriptures lined it out for you.
If the one who is wrong can't admit they're wrong when shown. They are blind, and after the 2nd admonishment, one should reject the heretic.
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Titus 3:10
Nowadays, good is evil, and evil is good. What one man believes to be good is an abomination to God. So it shouldn't be about what I think or what they think.
Would God want us divided?
If one meaning for God says "of the Supreme God" and the other says "the Almighty", it makes you believe there is a hierarchy. It also paints the picture of there being multiple gods in one name and then in another it would seem as if some "gods" are of a "Supreme God," which says the Almighty is the Father of God (or gods).
This is evil to know in the sight of some men. They also seem to believe understanding that isn't necessary either. But it's bull crap. It does matter.
What it means to have Elohim as the creator (or builder of this world) makes a big difference, and it is a salvation issue. No matter the case. The responses I've gotten from bringing it up have been 1. you are trying to shove this down my throat 2. you are deceived 3. God didn't tell you to talk about this. It has never once been a moment where the one who doesn't believe is willing to sit down and have their understanding challenged.
Umm, my position to these responses.
How do you know God didn't lead the conversation? God leads all conversations. Nothing humans do or say is of their own accord. In fact, the body without the spirit is dead (James 2:26),
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
I'd also like to point out. I do hear the Holy spirit and it is HIM who nudges me to say something to people. I'd rather not. In fact, I've said many times to Him. Oh, I don't want to do this. (haha)
We can also gather from the story of Jonah warning Ninevah to repent that it is God Almighty who instructs those things. The Word says, "they believed God." It doesn't say they believed Jonah.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them
It was Jonah who took the message. So why doesn't the Word say they believed Jonah? Because it is God - who is the Lord of Spirits - that instructed Jonah to say "y'all are going the wrong way" (repent). The spirit is what speaks. So whenever we are in conversations, and you hear people say, "I wasn't saying that." You get this idea that people think they're doing and saying things without a spirit directing all of it, that in turn, has one of two Spiritual fathers. Basically, it is either God using a man to test our knowledge on a matter, or feed us knowledge in the matter, and quite possibly satan to test us. Either way, the fact that it was brought up in a conversation should be more than enough to figure out what God is trying to convey.
The Spirit always leads the way.
When brethren tell me I'm shoving something down their throat, I envision a spirit trying to choke them out to keep them from obtaining the truth. and them confusing that for, it has to be you mentioning it. Heck, keep it real brethren. When you are telling someone - who is extremely excited about the perfect revelation they are sharing - they're doing something of their own accord (when they are doing it because of the Spirit of truth) is equivalent to saying that Holy Spirit-filled person is lying on the spirit.
Think about it.
If you are in a conversation with a person and that person brings up something doctrinal (that you don't agree with), if you can say, I don't want to hear what you are saying (aren't you the one with the problem? Why wouldn't you want to hear it? So you can either learn to reprove it, or learn it to know it? Or lets just say, if you can say, you are lying (deceived) about what you are saying (shouldn't you be bringing scripture to reprove it because you couldn't know someone is deceived unless you knew the scriptures, ey?).
Furthermore, aren't you saying to that person? You are lying (because you are deceived) which is calling them a liar?
Isn't satan an accuser? I mean, to even say you are deceived is equivalent to calling someone a liar. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to find a time to outline scriptures, look at those scriptures together, and find the answer? I mean, if you are going to say someone is deceived. You should know the scriptures that point out their deception and share them. Then be willing to talk about them (in love). Cutting people off mid-sentence is not listening or sharing in love.
But this is the response of those who don't believe the same things. Why?
What if you use the scriptures that verify their point? Shouldn't you hear that out too? Telling a person they are deceived without being able to clearly show them they are deceived is wrong; accusatory, and to show someone where they have been deceived, you must listen to them fully first.
These people who said I was wrong about what I've said regarding Elohim is not Father, son, Holy Spirit in Genesis 1 should take 10 or so hours to study what took me 7 years to learn. These people didn't hear me out. They didn't care to. That is freaking weird to me. They just threw out the insults after cutting me off and spent no time looking into it. Hasty they were.
It's written;
Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
If a believer lets the Word, and nothing but the Word, guide their path. Life would be so much easier for every one of us.
So, as I said. I mentioned Genesis 1 not being Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and they tell me. I am wrong. That is not true. The Holy Spirit, Father, and son are what is spoken of in those verses within Genesis 1.
I'm saying it again. I am saying they are wrong.
If every man is a liar and every Word of God is true. We can read the scriptures and find out what is what. Can't we? I mean, didn't we already?
Genesis 1 all the way through till Genesis 2 says 'God', and if we took the Word God and looked up what it meant in Hebrew, Here is the meaning
1. the meaning of Elohim is plural, meaning angels, magistrates, and judges of the Supreme God.
We went over this already!
Nothing on earth teaches you that you can be of something and be that something. Everything teaches. You can't be of something and be that something. For instance, my children are of me. They wouldn't exist without me. They carry my traits and my DNA. However, they aren't me. They're only OF me.
Now let's go further into Genesis 1:26 verse and get a greater understanding
2. image ___A RANDOM GOOGLE SEARCH ON THE WORD tsalem as found for image turns this meaning up___ According to Ancient Hebrew H6754 - The Hebrew word translated as "image" above is צלם tselem [H:6754] meaning an outline of a shadow, a representation or image of the original. Once God "formed" the man, he filled him up with a representation of himself, and according to this verse, his image is "male" and "female." BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT THE CONCORDANCE SAYS (although we will come back to this): The concordance says
To the right is a picture taken of the strongest concordance book I have on hand. The meaning you can see from within the photo is not the same as the online version (which recently underwent a major update)just like the others I notated on here.
6754 tsalem: from an unused root mean. to shade; a phantom, i.e (figuratively) illusion, resemblance, hence a representative figure especially an idol -image -vain show
Image, vain shew, especially an idol? To shade?
The Lord God hates idols, which makes this not make sense - and for me - would cause a bunch of confusion when analyzing the scriptures. That is, if I didn't know what Elohim meant.
It says here in Ezekiel 14:5 "That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols."
We are all estranged from HIM through idols. What idols? Tsalem, fanthom image, vain shew, illusion, "especially an idol." The male / female image is the male/female vain show, illusion, fanthom image, especially an idol. An idolatrous figure!
1 John 5:21 - Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
It is also part of the ten commandments to make thee no idols. As well as to have no other "gods" before him. (Exodus 20:3-6)
Why then would He be making idols? The Lord God hates idols.
And couldn't this be the reason why Christ was to reconcile the World unto Himself?
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:19
Think about it. If Father, Son, Holy Spirit are making the male and female system in HIS image (tsalem, vain show, representative figure, especially an idol), why does he need to reconcile the world back to Himself?
Add to it the fact that we need to be redeemed.
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." Acts 3:19
Remember, the verse in John telling us that ALL needed to repent? We would not need to be redeemed. We would not need adopted. We would not need reconciled. We would not need to repent if we were made in the perfect image of the Most High GOD.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
There are no male and female where he comes from! Why? If He loves this male and female perfection He made?
If you believe that Elohim is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit who said let us make man in tsalem (a vain shew especially an idol). That would mean that God Almighty is trying to be confusing. He says one thing and does another. Doesn't it say that Lord God is NOT the author of confusion?
Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven.
If Elohim is not some other angels who are only a part of the Supreme God ((as it says in Gods Holy Word using the concordance)) and it is Father, Son, Holy Spirit ((which it does not say)) who made the Host body (male/female) system in Genesis 1. Please explain to me how come Father doesn't just wipe away the sin from the male/females and keep everyone male and female in the resurrection?
Let's not forget:
Luke 20:34 Jesus answered, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy to share in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage
Now, wait. Things could begin to make more sense if we simply read what it is saying exactly how it says it. If Elohim made man in their own image (a vain shew, an illusion, a representative figure, especially an idol) ((and they did)) then that would mean it is not the Creator of all things and the one true living God; it isn't Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Could we find any scriptures to support this claim?
We ALL walked conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air? Why was we under the prince of the airs rule? Who put that guy in power and why was he put in power?
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Wait, if the Lord God made the male and female system ((which the scriptures do not say, (they say Elohim who is Of the Supreme God did)). Why does He want us to hate the world? Didn't the Most High say Let there be light, and all the other commands to make this world come into existence? Didn't He move upon the face of the darkness and command all that this world consists of to be what it is today? Why would He want us to hate it?
Wait, so let me get this right. Those who believe that Father, Son, holy Spirit made this place (the male and female system we all live in now) ((which is why HE was saying 'US' in Genesis 1:26)) then HE is evil because this world is evil, the flesh is evil, and this is HIS image -an evil world for those who live in the flesh? Tsalem; vain shew, illusion, especially an idol, was made by the Most High God (Jesus) and not angels, magistrates, judges, of the Supreme God? But, they say, the Supreme God Himself did all that in Genesis 1. This very thing is why people end up saying. Boy, this sure is confusing. God is far too confusing then. I give up. Cause none of it makes sense with this basic understanding they have.
1 John 2:26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
Father looks to be saying all this confusing stuff.
- I am one. Umm, you just said you are plural?
- I made you in my perfect image. But if you like that image you do not have the Love of me in you?
- I made you an idol. Then told you if make idols, you're in trouble?
- You said if I love anything about this world, me and you (God) essentially have no fellowship?
All this is too much! I will never be able to understand the scriptures then. There are far too many contradictions!
Psych!! Do you get it? Basic knowledge of the scriptures can truly harm a person.
Let's read the Word verbatim and let it say what it means. In Genesis 1 Elohim (angels, magistrates, and judges of the Supreme God) said let us make a vain show, illusion, fantom, and especially idols male/female. This was done in the day that the earth was built and a (singular) heaven.
Looking further into the word man in Genesis 1:26. This Hebrew word is numbered 120 and mean's: any man (2), anyone (4), anyone's (1), being* (1), common sort* (1), human (19), infantry (1), low degree* (1), low* (1), man (363), man's (20), man* (1), mankind (9), men (104), men of low degree* (1), men's (3), men* (4), mortal (1), one (3), people (1), person (5), person* (1), persons (3), population (1), someone (1).
A man of low degree, mortal, any man, anyone, people... Okay, so man is of a low degree, everyone of them, who is among the population these days. Interesting tidbit of knowledge I believe this is useful in understanding who we are.
Moving on. Genesis 2 brings in God with a special attachment to his name. LORD. This is something worth looking into! Let's read
Genesis 1:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Notice how it says there are a "host of them?" Let's look at Genesis 2 verse 4
4 These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
So we know that the heavens and earth was created. Let me repeat that. Someone created heavens and an earth. What is interesting is how Elohim (god) is mentioned in Genesis 1 and now Genesis 2 is saying Lord God and made heaven plural. This says there is more than one heaven.
Do we see evidence of this in the scriptures?
- 2 Corinthians 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows.
- Deuteronomy 10:14 Behold, to the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, and the earth and everything in it.
Oh, now this makes things interesting. There is at least three heavens and they belong to the Lord our God. Not just 'God'. Wait, is there something we can learn about this that further validates that Elohim is not the Father, Son, holy Spirit in Genesis 1?
Oh! Sure can!
Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. 23 This is the Lord's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
((I seem to like the New Living Translation more.)) It says Acts 4:11 "For Jesus is the one referred to in the Scriptures, where it says, ‘The stone that you builders rejected has now become the cornerstone."’
What's even more cool is how the Prophet Isaiah prophecies the Messiah's coming. He even refers to Him as the 'precious corner stone' in Isaiah 28:16
"See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; the one who believes will never be shaken."
Why then would the Lord God build (aka create) the earth and then reject Himself? That makes even more confusion. Again, I'm an analytical thinker. If God says He isn't the author of confusion. Why would I believe in something that makes the meanings confusing? Or they make us have to find reasons to explain away what that means.
Strange how you show people that scripture and they say these builders were someone who built buildings. Umm, are you saying Genesis 1 isn't describing how the world was built?
Elohim is OF the Supreme God and is hiding behind the title of God. Remember?
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:2
Elohim concealed things. It is interesting how this shows up throughout the scriptures too. There are so many revelations from directly within the scriptures that will blow anyone's mind that is tied to Elohim.
Btw, This very thing -understanding it fully - explains so much. Elohim creating in Genesis 1 is why the love of the Father is not in anyone who loves the things of this world. While we were the enemies to Christ. He died for us Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Did you know? God being the author of confusion, this very thought, is exactly why so many people have left the church. They make God Almighty confusing. They come and tell you things that aren't found in the scriptures. Then when you show them what is in the scriptures they want to accuse you of all sorts of things, instead of researching it. They add to it with their "because xyz" statements that do not have supporting scriptures. When you show them in the scriptures what is stated. Showing that the scriptures verify the scriptures. They tell you. You're the one using the scriptures incorrectly. In fact, they get to uptight to even listen. So they cut ya off and never even get to see all the many revelations.
Pretty sad. But they won't cut me off here and I will show it.
God is not the author of confusion. This is man doing that mess. Look at the 7 letters to the churches. Five of them have charges, right now -just as the scriptures say in Revelation. And I see clearly why they do have charges.
What is one of the most popular beliefs in the modern-day church? That God is triune and therefore, it was the reason why He spoke of Himself in the plural within Genesis 1:26.
Friends, this is a lie from the pits of hell.
Genesis 1:26 is not the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. That is Elohim. A bunch of angels, magistrates, and judges OF the Supreme God. I will say it again. It is not the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Sadly, many will continue forward in their surface-level belief that completely obscures meaning and they will say I am lying.
I am deceived. The scriptures do not say that.
The whole freaking bible is about this, which is why HE reconciled the world back to Himself and gave us the WORD of RECONCILIATION.
Reconciliation meaning:
- the restoration of friendly relations:
- the action of making one view or belief compatible with another:
- the action of making financial accounts consistent;
In order for us to restore friendly relations with God our relationship would have to be broken.
Meaning of redeemed:
1. compensate for the faults or bad aspects of (something):
2. gain or regain possession of (something) in exchange for payment:
This also means to gain or regain possession.
- Ephesians 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace
- Colossians 1:20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
So the Words around salvation, redemption, and the act of being redeemed reflect a broken relationship between all of us and God.
And more importantly, the scriptures go on to prove that we are enemies of God until we are redeemed and reconciled.
Genesis 1 was the formation of the world, lights, animals, a firmament, water above and below, the pillars, and four corners of the earth - BY GOD -(who is Elohim) ((Plural of angels, magistrates, and judges)). This chapter is essentially painting the picture of the builders building the earth.
Genesis 2, the LORD GOD comes in and forms Adam from the dust. LORD God is Jehovah Elohim. H3068 from H1961 the self existent or eternal; (Jehovah) Jewish national name of God: {Jehovah the Lord} Compare H3050 and H3069
This is not the same as God in Genesis 1.
With deeper study, this can be proven by using the scriptures. As previously mentioned -it takes time and a lot of effort to learn.
It would seem there is a hierarchical status in the (heavens).
The Lord God is Jehovah Elohim, the self-existent or eternal Elohim, not just Elohim, who appears to have access/control of multiple heavens and appears to be at the highest point of that hierarchy.
Is there a hierarchy? Or am I making that up?
“And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.” Isaiah 34:4
Jeremiah 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
Nehemiah 9:6
“Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
The Host of heaven worships thee?
This verse is referencing LORD just like LORD in Genesis 2. This is interesting. This alone makes it very obvious to me that there is so much more to learn. So much more to understand.
Could Elohim concealing matters have something to do with this? Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter;
to search out a matter is the glory of kings
Let's see if we can answer that question. God made heaven in Genesis 1. In Genesis 2, the LORD GOD made the heavens.
We can then put verses that follow from the other books together, which would allow for us to paint a mental picture of what is being said. ((This is equivalent to learning line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little just as Isaiah the prophet spoke.))
Let's use a few of the previous verses to get a better understanding of what it is I've just said.
- Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
- Deuteronomy 10:14 Behold, to the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, and the earth and everything in it.
- Jeremiah 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered...
- Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved...
These verses absolutely convey that there are multiple hosts in the heavens. Only one (the LORD God) is over ALL of them, even the highest heavens. It is also very evident that these hosts will NOT abide forever, just as the Word of God will.
1 Peter 1:25 but the word of the Lord stands forever.” And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world; if it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jews. But now My kingdom is not of this realm.”
So, here we have it. The hosts of heaven will be dissolved.
There are multiple heavens, and only one LORD who is over them all. This is not the same reference as God in Genesis 1.
There are hosts that can't be numbered that will be dissolved, and Jesus will remain forever. So mentioning these hosts isn't talking about Him (Jesus) either. They would merely be OF Him.
There are builders who rejected the head cornerstone (who so happens to be the Messiah, Jesus) which means the evidence of Father, Son, Holy Spirit triune doctrine is beginning to look like a concept some man came up to explain it away.
Jesus wouldn't have spent Genesis 1 building the earth only to come in in Genesis 2 and cause confusion by referencing Himself as a whole different entity.
Every God, Lord God, and Lord reference having a different meaning is important and it does shed light onto a matter.
Without that understanding, it is easy to be misled. It also is very evident that not understanding certain things will cause confusion.
For instance, why reference these "builders" if there was no way to figure out who these builders are?
Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
If we say a bunch of angels, magistrates, and judges of the Supreme God made male and female in a vain show, illusion, phantom, especially an idol, then Jesus having to reconcile the World back to Himself would make sense. ((After all, image is Hebrew Word 6754 meaning illusion, phantom, vain show, especially an idol)).
If we say it is Father, Son, Holy Spirit is who God is in Genesis 1. Then a thousand questions arise. Such as. Why does Jesus need to reconcile the world back to Himself?
Didn't He make it? Aint it His?
The god who created man and woman is evil. It is very clear that man and woman are not made in this perfect image people try and say we are, -in the likeness of the Most High God.
Surface-level thinking believers will sentence you to hell for knowing the differences in the name of God, but should be very interested in the topic themselves, after all, the Lord thy GOD commands that we have no other gods before Him and to study to show ourselves approved.
Oh, and since we are on the topic.
2 Corinthians 4:4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
How did Satan become the god of this world? Could it be because of Elohim?
Asking other believers has resulted in a lot of conjecture that isn't scriptural. In fact, I've heard some of the wildest reasons as to how he became the god of this world. Quite frankly, all of them are personal interpretations. None of them can be backed up by scripture. And let me point out. Speaking in love is speaking the truth, and sometimes the truth is hard to hear. That doesn't mean I'm being mean or rude. In fact, my heart is so broken over this topic. I love my brethren.
I do believe that this is where many end up tossing in the towel to stop following Jesus. They end up like the Pharisees and stop following the truth. They go on to follow their own ideas. Just as it is stated in
Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
You see, you tell people that Father, Son, Holy Spirit is not in Genesis 1 and it destroys all they've ever learned. One of the 1st things everyone says is. "Satan can't create."
First, off, who said Satan created anything? Nowhere in the scriptures does it say satan created anything! I also didn't say that at any point in time. In fact, I said over and over Elohim created.
Why did I say that?
Because the scriptures clearly say that! I'm just repeating what the Word says. Unfortunately, these people refuse to look at the doctrine that backs up Lucifer being responsible for "dawning his own Creation" thereby making himself the god of this world.
Does scripture verify this?
Maybe it is time to incorporate other scriptures into our understanding? It is written,
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
How was Lucifer going to exalt his throne above the stars of God? What is the root word of God? God in this verse is H410 meaning EL, ale', (Immanuel). Meaning with us is EL, the Almighty.
When you study all the different meanings of God you come to find different scriptures pertaining to God that stand out more than others.
For instance, Exodus 20:3, thou shalt have no other gods before me. Who are these other gods? Can it be there is someone posing as God?
Isaiah 29:15-16 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? 16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Ah, I must point out. "Darkness was upon the face of the deep". Scriptures say Elohim (aka God H430) was when everything was without form and void the one saying "let there be light". Do you find it strange that the LORD said there are those whose "work is in the dark" and then the earth was without form and darkness was upon the face of the deep? I do. Anyhow, there is obviously some higher power who turned things upside down and he is esteemed as the potter. The potter of the male/female that is. Who is esteemed as the potter in this world?
Elohim, "god" in Genesis 1.
Well, if people worship God in Genesis 1 as the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and claim they are made in the perfect image that he is, they've no need of salvation. Now, do they?
But if they acknowledge the concealed meaning of Elohim being "of" the Supreme God they can see there is someone posing as God who desires to be worshipped. This would be (or is) verified in Isaiah when the Most High says you believe no one sees what you are doing, but I see you, cause I created you. It also explains how Lucifer was going to rise his throne above the stars of EL.
Most have no idea, they are worshiping Elohim as the Creator of male/female and that they are worshipping angels, and hosts of heaven. Not the Most High. They are not looking at the meaning of God to find it means Elohim, then learn what that means. A seasoned saint is rejecting knowledge when they say, "I've no need of understanding this".
Elohim created this male and female host body "idol". Recognizing that for who and what they truly are changes everything.
The world is fallen. Our Father in heaven, owner of the heavens is perfect, not fallen.
- 1 John 2:16-17 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
- John 4:22-26 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Think about this. When a man believes that Elohim is the Most High and not OF the Supreme God (Most High), that means people are worshiping what they know not. Why would the Most High create a man to be a phantom image, a vain show, an illusion, especially an idol?
Also, think about this. None of the churches go into great detail on what means what within the scriptures. I mean, they don't search the Words taking them down to their root meaning like we have here.
Why?
Why don't they push a man to learn the Word -which is how a man is born again to be incorruptible in its fullest degree? After all, God (Elohim) concealed matters. Wouldn't it be wise to search those out?
John 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.
We were God's enemy. We are angels who fell like men. We are the ones who needed to be bought back.
If you believe that you are full of sin because of Adam and Eve. Then you have a surface-level understanding. This isn't a bad thing (unless you've been in the faith a long time and God brought you the understanding but you chose to ignore it or worse refuted the messenger).
That is happening daily now.
Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
How is our life hidden? How does one get Christ to find out?
John 17:17 sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
The Word is literal. And look what it says about you.
Psalm 82:6 I have said, ‘Ye are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But like mortals you will die, and like rulers you will fall.”
So, according to God's Word we are gods which just so happens to be Hewbrew Word 430 (Elohim, Angels, magistrates, and judges)!
Holy Smoke! The Word of God says we are angels, magistrates, and judges who will die like a mortal and like a ruler will fall.
John 10:34 Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said "ye are gods?"
They wanted to stone Jesus for this very thing. Those people in the CHURCH wanted to stone Jesus for trying to make Himself God. When HE was God who made Himself into a man.
How did they miss Him?
They refuted HIS Words.
They refused to believe Him and some did believe but chose not to confess Him cause they needed the praise of man more than the love of God. This same scenario is happening today. I asked a sister, Why does the scripture say "Ye are gods, all of you?"
The verbatim response I received:
"I have said ye are gods....and as I said before...king's were called God's back then...but God also says to them they will die like men....meaning He was putting them in their place...they are no better than a peasant. As God himself appoints kings for His purpose."
Ephesians 6:17 - And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
The Word of God builds upon itself. It is evident that God the Almighty Creator of ALL things rules over those who want to pose as God. The Word proves this out by searching the meanings of the WORD. By doing so, one can rightly divide the Word. Like building blocks. The response given by my brethren is a concept made up or was given from others. As you can see there is literally zero reference to scripture. Nowhere in scripture does it say that gods were called Kings during x time and this is why it is said ye are gods. This is merely a way to disregard what the Word is actually saying and considered using 'man's precepts".
2 I will utterly consume all things from off the land, saith the LORD. 3 I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumblingblocks with the wicked; and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.
Why would God Almighty destroy the man from off the land when He comes back? Why wouldn't He just destroy the sin from man and leave the man?
Jeremiah 11:12 - Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble.
Why would there be "gods" people offer incense to that will not save them? Could it be because these gods are not in the highest heaven, and they are only of the one true living God, which means these people trusted in what they believed was the Most High God, when He was not?
Is this why ...
Matthew 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.”
As stated, if the flesh was God Almighty EL's making and not Elohim why doesn't He just take sin away and keep the male and female? Why does HE destroy it all? Could it be because... He never made it Himself it was angels, magistrates, and judges that were 'of' Him? Is this why the world has been led astray?
Oh, wait. I know the response here! Don't you worry. I know what you are saying.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The Word is God.
This just means those who are OF Him have the breathe of God in them. Heck, those who are redeemed have the Holy Spirit - which is Ruach Kodesh - meaning breath! This means, the indwelling Holy Spirit (who is God Almighty) uses man at His free will.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
He is the LORD of Spirits. Of course, there is a deeper meaning here to most definitely search out. Like, He tells His people to not worry about what to say in a court of law cause He will speak for them. This allows us to see that He is in control of those things. Just like using men to write the Word. No man wrote that. The body without the Spirit is dead. The same for Elohim. They are "of" the Supreme God. Just like I am "of" the Supreme God. The thing is, I am not God. I need God. Just as they aren't God Almighty. Instead, they are OF Him.
Keep in mind, we are warned to have no other God before HIM and many "gods" pose as if they are God Almighty. This is why so many people worship Budha and all others because these spirits are posers!
Collossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
It says, "FOR BY HIM were all things created". Friends, this doesn't mean that God in Genesis 1 is the Most High God - who in scriptures is notated as EL H410, and the Most High is notated as G5310 and H5945 Elyone! The Supreme, Most on High, highest, uppermost... the Creator of all things created those Elohim who decided to create the male/female system that will soon be destroyed by fire.
And it is important to know this. In fact, it is a salvation issue.
Why?
Because you know why you are saved and what you have been saved from. You don't believe you are saved because your ancestors sin. You believe you are saved from your own sin of putting on the flesh. You are an angel, who has fallen like a prince, and will die like a man who the enemy is trying to turn into a locust from the pit. To say that the scriptures are referring to some men that God ... Ugh,,, whatever was said...
It's not true. That is made up. The evidence is overwhelming and the scriptures prove it out.
Psalm 5:4 thou art not a God H410 that hath pleasure in wickedness neither shall evil dwell with thee.
Why not H430? Why not look it up? Why not find out? Why not study to show thyself approved to become a workman who can rightly divide the Word?
Psalm 7:11 God H430 judgeth the righteous, and God H410 is angry with the wicked every day.
Why does Elohim judge the righteous and El is angry with the wicked?
Psalm 10:12 Arise, O LORD H3068, O God H410 lift up thine hand forget not the humble.
Oh, LORD EL is coming to judge the wicked, destroy man, and his stumbling blocks from off the land and those who believed in Jesus will be angels? Why isn't Elohim coming to judge the World? Why are we going to be angels (just as it is stated in Matthew 22:30)? Look, this is because we (those who repented and believe) go back, we have been reconciled through the blood of Jesus, through our understanding of what HE did for us. We have been redeemed. We have been bought back by the blood of Jesus.
It makes perfect sense!
Jeremiah 1:5 "I knew you before you were born."
That absolutely makes sense! We were once in His presence! This is how He knew us. This is why He came from another world to BUY US BACK!
Isaiah 51:14 The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed, and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail.
We are the captives in exile who knows that we need Jesus to escape the 2nd death and to be loosed from all the sin (bondage) we are in before HE comes into our lives.
Hebrews 11:13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth
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They knew that they were strangers and exiles on the earth!
Hebrews 11:13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
Psalm 39:12 “Hear my prayer, O Lord, and give ear to my cry; Do not be silent at my tears; For I am a stranger with You, A sojourner like all my fathers
When you get redeemed you are no longer strangers to the Lord God Almighty cause Jesus having redeemed you reconciles you back to HIM and this makes you a stranger on the earth! But without redemption, you are a stranger to the LORD.
Philippians 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;
Sin belongs to the flesh. Angels are in heaven. Angels are what we go back to when we are risen in the ressurection. The flesh is what Elohim created. And don't say Satan can't create. I never once said satan could. But Elohim obviously can and did. Besides, satan can transform himself into an angel of light (but that's a different topic).
1 Chronicles 29:15 For we are sojourners before You, and tenants, as all our fathers were; our days on the earth are like a shadow, and there is no hope.
Our days are like a shadow? Wait! Remember the meaning of tsalem from a google search said "casting shadow," and I said I would come back to it? Look at what this says,
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Job 17:7 Mine eye also is dim by reason of sorrow, and all my members are as a shadow.
The LORD says there is no variableness neither shadow of turning, but we cast shadows, and people believe this is the LORD GOD who created in Genesis 1? This is contradictory in nature.
Studying the Word causes questions to arise that can't be explained away. Well, they could but what man do we listen to over the Word of God? I searched with my whole heart. I didn't care about anything more than obtaining the truth.
Hebrews 11:10 for he was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God. (Not 430 rather G2316)
The Word clearly tells us architect and builder is associated with God. Not some men out here building buildings.
Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
The Lord God is a host of heaven, the Father of Abraham, Isacc, and Jacob. He spoke, and made, using the WORD. This doesn't mean it is Father, Son, Holy Spirit in Genesis 1.
In fact, the triune doctrine is manmade. There are 13 scriptures that tell us Father, Son, Holy Spirit is ONE, not three! Why would we ignore the 13 scriptures that tell us HE is one? How do people read the bible and derive that God is three in one which is why He referenced Himself in a plural Word? Although, nowhere in doctrine does it say this. Hey, I'm sorry. But I can't help but say this is foolishness. This folly is not true. What you are telling me is equivalent to telling me that God is stupid and confusing. He wasn't wise enough to give us scriptures providing proof that He sometimes refers to Himself in the plural and sometimes in the singular? You are telling me God is the author of confusion.
And this isn't true. God is not the author of confusion.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Deuteronmy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
No way would our perfect one Lord, One God, be dumb enough to say "we" or "us". This destroys the modern-day church doctrine that so many are holding to with no scriptural backing.
Recall in previous posts it was established using scripture to show the churches were notated in the bible as leading people astray? Recall where it says in
Jeremiah 23 “Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the Lord.
verse 4: "I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the Lord.
This is what is happening. All those teachers are using their own ideas to explain God away. By replacing God in Genesis 1 with the Lord God, EL. People are worshiping God in a lie. They have no idea how Lucifer became the God of this World. The thing is, the Lord sent us a man who has held to sound doctrine to restore the gospel and help us to see clearly. Thereby clearing up every misconception and every contradiction the scriptures have made. The problem is. This guy isn't your average run-of-the-mill teacher. He is rough around the edges and teaches in a way that no one in our time has before. He is our modern-day Noah. And many people, who profess Jesus are denying him. As if they don't need to listen. When the truth of the matter is. You don't want to listen to him? You are saying. I don't want to listen to God.
And before someone says I am 'idolizing this man'. You should know it is written:
1 Thessalonians 5:13 - And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake; that is, both on account of their labors, and especially on account of the dignity of their office, for their work is the work of the Lord. Both love for their persons and respect for their authority are here enjoined
I am merely acknowledging and respecting the body of Christ, no matter the 'type' of character a person is. Jesus knows what He is doing and that is all that matters.
I am the same when I am moved in the spirit to correct brethren who are believing something that is not true. I am commanded to reprove, rebuke, and exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine. When I know you believe a falsehood I am to correct you. This is not me coming at you of my own accord. No man speaks of his own accord.
Jonah warned Ninevah, and they believed God. I am warning you, and I pray you believe God. Because standing in a lie and believing something that is not true allows you to be blamed. Since Jesus is the WORD. You can only continue in Him when you continue in HIS Word.
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed
I have shown you scriptural evidence providing proof that the builders (the architects) of this world rejected Jesus and HE became the Head cornerstone. Another scripture to add to this would be
Psalm 68:4 Sing to God (H430), sing in praise of his name, extol him who rides on the clouds[b]; rejoice before him—his name is the Lord.
The Elohim to sing praises to and extol the LORD H3068
Psalm 68: Mount Bashan, majestic mountain, Mount Bashan, rugged mountain, 16 why gaze in envy, you rugged mountain, at the mountain where God (H430) chooses to reign, where the Lord (H3068) himself will dwell forever?
You gonna tell me that the LORD is saying to the Hill of Bashan why are you leaping why you gaze in envy? You are the mountain where HIMSELF/MYSELF chooses to reign but HEY SELF I'm going to dwell there?
That is confusion. And a little meat would simply be
Isaiah 14: You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God H410;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the hill of the North!
This is God Almighty's way of saying. You who posed as God, you said in your heart you were going to sit in the Hill of the North. But you won't because I have declared the LORD JESUS will take the throne. This is why the stone the builders rejected became the head cornerstone.
I pray those who are wrong about these scriptures took the time to read this. Surface-level thinking is only okay for a baby in Christ. The 1st oracle of Christ is to be able to teach.
Hebrews 5:12 12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food,
Over and over did one accuse me of adding to the Word, of being deceived, of needing to study more. I am using scripture to explain scripture. This is the perfection of the Word. In fact, I could keep on going and do another 20 pages.
We are the stars that Lucifer was trying to kill. He was a liar from the beginning. If you don't recognize that you were bought with a price from the clutches of death *because you were in a covenant with death* ((because you put the flesh on.)) You are denying Jesus. You are denying that one that bought you.
Not me or the man HE appointed to share. To say otherwise is complete dismissal of the scriptures. You are gods. This says, you are elohim, angels, magistrates, and judges of the Most High (Elyone) and the proof to this is found within John 10:34. Jesus wasn't referring to "Kings" He sets up. He was referring to all of us. Me clearing up the error isn't a "thing I'm doing simply because I'm proud, or know more, it is because God Almighty instructed me to do it. Those who say otherwise are omitting James 2:26 The body without the spirit is dead. No man operates of his own accord.
Letter to the church of Ephesus 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Leaving home and coming here to have a host body experience would explain why HE said we left our 1st love. It also is backed up when He tells us He will reconcile us, redeem us, and He knew us before He formed us in the womb.
2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Fallen, you mean fallen like one of the Princes as it is written in Psalm 82? I'd says so.
It fits like a glove.
The flesh itself is idol worship and against God. We know this because He who walks after the Spirit won't fulfill the lust of the flesh which wars against the spirit because the spirit and the flesh are contrary to one another.
Jude 1:4-6 For 1063 there are certain 5100 men 444 crept in unawares 3921, who 3588 were before 4270 0 of old 3819 ordained 4270 to 1519 this 5124 condemnation 2917, ungodly men 765, turning 3346 the grace 5485 of our 2257 God 2316 into 1519 lasciviousness 766, and 2532 denying 720 the only 3441 Lord 1203 God 2316, and 2532 our 2257 Lord 2962 Jesus 2424 Christ 5547. (5) I will 1014 therefore 1161 put 5279 0 you 5209 in remembrance 5279, though ye 5209 once 530 knew 1492 this 5124, how that 3754 the Lord 2962, having saved 4982 the people 2992 out of 1537 the land 1093 of Egypt 125, afterward 1208 destroyed 622 them that believed 4100 not 3361.
6 And 5037 the angels 32 which kept 5083 not 3361 their 1438 first estate 746, but 235 left 620 their own 2398 habitation 3613, he hath reserved 5083 in everlasting 126 chains 1199 under 5259 darkness 2217 unto 1519 the judgment 2920 of the great 3173 day 2250.
Everlasting is a Greek word numbered as 126 and means
aidios (ah-id"'-ee-os) adj. 1. (forward and backward) eternal 2. (forward only) everlasting [from G104] KJV: eternal, everlasting Root(s): G104
CHAINS, G1199, meaning, Part of Speech: noundesmon (des-mon') (or desmos des-mos') n. 1. a band, i.e. ligament (of the body) or shackle (of a prisoner) 2. (figuratively) an impediment or disability [neuter and masculine respectively from G1210] KJV: band, bond, chain, string Root(s): G1210 A forward and backward ligament of the body? Umm, isn't all of our genetic makeup in DNA?
That DNA is a forward and backward ligament of our body. Our essence, our light is in that. The evidence for such is overwhelming and it is exactly why they're attacking the DNA of humanity. They don't want anyone to wake up. They want everyone to try and fight Jesus when HE comes back.
We are the angels who left their first estate who needed redeemed and reconciled back to our Father. Our shackles are the DNA.
People would know and understand this fully if they watched the man the Lord God raised up to restore the doctrine so those who are written in the book could be delivered.
If you choose to double-down on your manmade concepts than you have turned aside from the truth and will be among the many who will be told "Depart from me you worker of lawlessness".
Who shall be just like the Pharisees and believe what they've always known to be the truth although it has been destroyed?
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.
Who will reject knowledge? Who will hold fast to this false Jesus? The Jesus that can't determine if HE is singular or plural. Or give us a clear understanding of all things written? A Jesus of confussion. Who will hold onto that?
4 I will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah, and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, and the name of the Chemarims with the priests; 5 And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops; and them that worship and that swear by the LORD, and that swear by Malcham; 6 And them that are turned back from the LORD; and those that have not sought the LORD, nor enquired for him. 7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests. 8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
Explain why he will cut people off that worship and swear by the LORD. You can't, that is unless you acknowledge the hierarchy in heaven and the fact that the Lord Gods' kingdom is NOT of this world.
Otherwise the Lord is talking to HIMSELF and HE is saying I will cut off those who worship me, and then from the other verse in Isaiah about God saying he was going to dwell on a hill (the hill of Bashan which seems to be in the North) HE would be saying, I plan on sitting in the hill of Bashan but I'm asking myself, why? Caue I am going to take it over...
That literally makes zero sense.
Worship EL the Almighty. (Jesus) in Spirit and in truth. The presence of the LORD God, not God. Why? Because the LORD GOD is higher up HE is directly connected and linked and notated as being the
This means we do away with our way of thinking (even if it goes against the way of the world). (refer to Mark 7:7 and Matthew 15:9) It is very evident over 70% of the churches these days are not following the way of truth. Instead, they're following their own understanding. When something is presented to us that goes against our way of thinking, but is proven out in scripture if we choose to hold onto our old way of thinking over accepting the truth of the gospel then we are among those in the church that are considered Pharisees.
Stop denying the commandments of God to hold onto the traditional way of thinking, or you will perish! Abba will hold every one of us accountable for denying knowledge. He will not take it lightly either. I speak this in love. Not prideful and puffed up. My heart has been so broken over the last couple of months watching these things occur.
Hosea 4:6 - My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.
The churches were full of people who didn't know or share the truth. In fact, that is exactly what Jeremiah 23 was telling us. Those days are over and behind us. This is not the case now. We do have the tools to study and show ourselves approved. There is no division in the body of Christ. We are to allow the WORD to direct us. When someone comes to you about something this is GOD moving (either the god of this world or the LORD GOD Almighty. Actually, to say this correctly, the Lord GOD is the LORD of Spirits. So it's God directing people to do and say what HE demands.) if you jump to "you can't tell me nothing", Then you aren't operating like a child (as we are told to be). A child will listen and learn. If you are incorrect a child will come back later on and say what they found out. However, they won't argue until they are blue. Heck, they won't argue. They simply listen to learn something. That is how we are supposed to be.
Proverbs 27:5 Better is an open rebuke than secret love
May the Lord God Almighty bless those who feel they are worshiping Jesus when they are denying His Words. I know in my heart they don't even realize they are doing it. Look, a humble spirit admits their wrongs, swallows their pride, and keeps moving forward. A wicked man will hold to his misconception, and double down on the lie, all to keep themselves from "looking stupid".
Proverbs 16:19 Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
Just note: everything is created by HIM for HIM. And in the beginning, was the WORD... This means the WORDS Elohim spoke were from the LORD GOD in BREATH AND SPIRIT. Without the LORD GOD, nothing would be possible. Lucifer was a brilliant angel who got puffed up and wanted to be higher than the Most High. But HE failed. This is why Jesus came in and purchased all the kids back. The evidence is here. It's in the scriptures. If you refute that without many long hours of studying and praying about it. You are being "wise in your own conceit".
Proverbs 26:12 “Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.”
Oh, what an error that would be! And just to add to this. You see? There is no private interpretation of the scriptures because looking into the Words clears up all the misunderstandings. The WORD of GOD explains the Word of God. This is how one rightly divides the Word. They are able to use scriptures to back up scriptures. The body of Christ can never argue or see things differently than one another if they take the literal meaning of the WORDS and incorporate that into their understanding. This allows for the body of Christ to be of "one accord".
Case in point, Elohim is OF the Supreme God. I am reading that directly out of the scriptures by using the concordance. I didn't create the concordance. The LORD GOD had men do it. And it is a great study tool. It allows us to see so much more into the Word of God. When I say Elohim is angels, magistrates, and judges of the Supreme God I am not lying or adding to the Word of God either. When someone says I am, and I show this evidence to support it. If they choose to hold onto the Father, Son, Holy Spirit theory the churches taught then they are doing exactly what is written in Mark 7:7 and Matthew 15:9.
Remember, Abba warned us using the scriptures.
He wrote these things about those who are trying to deceive us
1 John 2:26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
We can read and let scripture verify scriptures. This is why the churches don't go into detail about Jesus being the Word of God. It is why they stray away from telling you that you need no man to teach you. It is why they choose to tell you how to study the Word and give you a foundation where you believe you need them to guide you. If the churches had good intentions Jesus wouldn't have been flipping over money tables, whipping a man, and yelling out to them about their deceptions. He wouldn't have warned us about the pastors leading the flocks astray. And also, keep in mind, the road is very narrow. There are few who will find it. So the gospel message by default is one that many who profess Christ will deny. This is why many will be told: "Depart from me I never knew you." They chose to deny the knowledge contained in the Word within Words such as God and Lord God, which is why Elohim concealed matters. And the churches don't teach how to be Kings and search it out. The members blindly trust and to their own demise.
Catholic church knows this and hid it. It is why they sing to Lucifer about dawning his own creation, and why it is written
Luke 11:52 “Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.”
Envelope self in the truth. If you have been wrong about a belief you had tell your flesh and your pride to take a back seat to your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Otherwise, holding onto that belief despite correction and using the scriptures will place you right alongside those who are Pharisees. I love you all.
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I pray this helps someone along the way to obtain the truth and not be held to traditional ways of thinking. Cause denying this truth is denying the one who bought you.
He (the Most High God) purchased you back, and didn't make you in HIS (perfect) image until HE bought you back.
2 Corinthians 3:18 - But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Romans 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Colossians 3:10 - And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Ephesians 4:24 - And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
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